Are these black bumble bee shrimp ?.

[lillith112]

Bought these as black bumble bee shrimp, is that correct ? are they also know as pandas ?.




Julia.

[Fento]

Nop, they're just bee (Caridina cf. cantonensis)
http://www.shrimpnow.com/content.php...Diamond-Shrimp
(...or crystal black, I'm not sure about it's differences.)

[lillith112]

Thanks for the info Fento, I thought they may be some way related to the Crystal reds and had no idea they would cross with tigers.
Julia.

[FishFan85]

Hi Julia

Definitely not Bumblebee shrimp


I believe they are Crystal Black grades.
The Crystal Black came from Caridina cf. Cantonensis Bee, just like the Crystal Red.

The Bee:

© http://www.willemhartman.nl/website/...nensis_bee.php

Crystal Black are through bred Caridina cf. Cantonensis Bee. Therefore they are both.

The picture given is i.m.o. a Crystal Black grade.

For example you name a Panda Shrimp
Caridina cf. cantonensis var. Taiwan Bee/Panda
©Chris Lukhaup
©https://sites.google.com/site/crustahobby/home-1



This is a yet to be classified Taiwan Bee shrimp, Panda is a variant of Caridina cf. cantonensis var. Taiwan Bee/Panda
Also you have Caridina cf. cantonensis var. Taiwan Bee/Wine Red and Caridina cf. cantonensis var. Taiwan Bee/Red Ruby.


Joey

P.S. Those are VERY nice shrimp Julia!!!
I'm almost depressed that I can't get another nano-tank just for CRS/CRB

[lillith112]

Thanks Joey, I heard that if they breed with Crystal red the black will phase out apparently, they are beautiful shrimp whatever they are, one of them only has one eye too l, I bought him like that.
Julia.

[FishFan85]

Thanks Joey, I heard that if they breed with Crystal red the black will phase out apparently, they are beautiful shrimp whatever they are, one of them only has one eye too l, I bought him like that.
Julia.

That is not what I read/learned. black is dominant over red, but most experiences given in the hobby when kept together, CRS and CRB will produce 50/50 black and red offspring.
No "color fading" will take place, only different "grades" can come out of them. No worries there I think

Joey

[lillith112]

Oh thats cool then as I wanted to have a tank just for Crystal reds too so good to know the colours will keep if the blacks are in with them. Thanks Joey
Wow those Taiwan Bees are awsum !
Julia