Red Fire Shrimp

[silane]

Saw these shrimp in LFS, they are labelled as Red Fire Shrimp. Anyone know what is the scentific name?

[Robert]

Hi,
i have no idea which species these shrimps belong to. It is probably a Caridina species, there are soem similarities to some known Caridina species.

The trade name given to them is confusing. In Europe, especially in German speaking countries, there is already a shrimp known as "red fire". It is the shrimp which the rest of the world knows as cherry shrimp, Neocaridina denticulata sinensis 'red'.

regards

Robert

[silane]

I didn't see any red on the shrimp, perhaps, red is the in color to fetch a higher price for shrimp.

[newb4ev3r]

Errr.... I bought shrimps that looks like it last week (looks quite similar but there's a big possibility that I might be wrong), especially looks like the shrimp in the 2nd picture. The seller told me that the shrimps was a red cherry, but due to inbreeding they lost the red color. Some of it has a black color marking (like the one in the 2nd picture), some of it has faint green color on their back. I bought it, place it in my tanks, but until now what I can see is a transparent color shrimp. I will take a picture of them, not gonna be an easy task because they are very very active shrimp, way more active than my "original" red cherry .

[retardo]

I believe there may be some crossbred cherries that are hitting the market these days, but it may vary by region. Here in the US, at least, I know there are the regular cherries that still prolific in the market, but we are also beginning to see introductions of wild cherries in hobbyists' tanks. I don't know to what extent, but we should try to maintain strains of cherries (or other species) as best we can.

The shrimp in the pix, however, don't quite resemble cherries to me, but I could be way wrong. It's so hard to tell these days when new common names are pulled out of thin air and sold unbeknownst to hobbyists worldwide. As Robert pointed out, this can get really confusing really fast.

[Kenshin]

Based on the abdomen (curved up), I believe it belongs to the Caridina sp., probably the one of the "Rainbow" shrimp (or also known as Indian Dwarf shrimp sp.). These shrimps has been circulating in the market recently due to the people living in the native area able to catch them easily from the wild and exporting them to others (such as to dealers/breeder/shrimp hobbyists). Or these shrimp could also be from Indonesia as I have seen similar species that looks just like that. Like retardo have stated, no matter what species it is, it is best for us to isolate them in their own strain (as well as learning what water parameters they live under), and breed them to spread to other shrimp hobbyists so our nature would not be destroyed by people who just catch these animals (without thinking of the consequences of our EARTH) for a quick buck.

[silane]

I bet these shrimps are from Indonesia, this LFS has connection with Indo fish supplier, they alway sell Indo breed fishes.

[Xema]

mmm I know that guy... I have one of them living my tanks...



It came to me in a order of leopard/tiger shrimps...

It looked as a C. multidentata juvenile and only one specimen, I placed it into my Leopard tank with some C. fernandoi/babulti??. Both are rather shy, and only seen a few times.

That shrimp in adult stage


Offsprings is what showed in the first picture.

[silane]

Xema,

Do the babies go through larva stage?


I saw this piece which can live up to its name, Red Fire, it comes with red stripes, however, my handphone sucks, cannot show it redness.

[Xema]

Only get 3 or 4 offsprins and now I have only 2 alive (the passed summer was terrible for my shrimps)... I think they have not larve stage... but i can be sure...

I just take some new shoots of them but they looks with a short rostrum than your picture.







see the large (relatively) and serrated rostrum separeted of the base of the antena.