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Jane of Upton
1st Mar 2006, 07:11 PM
Hello,

I tried to find if anyone else has observed this, and the only reference I could find was Retardo mentioning a small leech attaching to the Exoskelaton of a shrimp in this post:

http://www.shrimpnow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558&highlight=leech

I have now come across this phenomenon for the second time, so I am trying to find out more. What I've seen is a small leech, with its base attached to a shrimp near the head (possibly because the shrimp could remove it when grooming if it were to attach elsewhere). It is noticible because it stretches out to feed, especially when the shrimp is feeding, and extends and contracts.

The first one I saw was on an imported (wild caught) Bumblebee shrimp so I figured this might be a parasite from the wild. It was attached up near the antennae, and would wave about, especially when there was food around. I did not know what to do, so I isolated the shrimp. It was rather unnerving to watch, too, but the shrimp was eating, and did not seem to be irritated by its presence. However, the shrimp only survived about a week, so I was unsure if it was because of the presence of this leech, or some other factor (more likely).

Now, I've gotten some tank-raised Red Cherry shrimp from a well-respected breeder, and put them in their own exclusive shrimp tank. All have been acting and looking healthy, and the females are developing ovary saddles. However, I noticed on one smaller one, the same kind of leech-thing waving around! Ewww! I again isolated the shrimp in a small container, and inspected all the others for signs of a similar attached leech. None of the others have this.

I used a VERY tiny surgical tweezer, and much patience, and when the shrimp had become accustomed to the tweezer near its head, and the thing was extended, I grabbed it, and it came off! I put it into a tiny plastic cup, and it seemed to "re-attach" to the bottom of the cup, and again begin the extenion-compression motion. Then I noticed a second one in about the same location on the same shrimp. I did the whole thing again, and this one came off too, but with a bit of the tip of the rostrum (?) of the shrimp. It too remained alive and kicking in the tiny cup. These are TINY leeches! Fully extended, they are perhaps 3-4 mm, and compressed they're barely 1 mm. When I put a small granule of food into the water with them, they both started the extension-compression motion again.

Meanwhile, the shrimp seems OK, and she has been moving around a bit, scouring the bit of java moss I put in with her. I also vacuumed the main shrimp tank to remove any possible un-attached young leeches.

Three Questions for all of you:

1) Has anyone else seen these things, or had a similar experience? Retardo, you mentioned something that might have been similar - was it like what I've seen? The one on the wild-caught shrimp I thought was an isolated incident, but this second appearance of the same type of thing suggests it is more prevalent.

2) Is this thing Parasitic? Is it harming the shrimp or feeding on it in some way? or is it simply Opportunistic (ie it attaches to the shrimp because the shrimp forages for food, and it is along for the ride only)?

3) Does anyone know what the life cycle is - is there a freeswimming component that could attach to other shrimp? Is it safe to put the shrimp from whom I removed the leeches back into the main tank, or is she a "carrier" now?

Thanks for any information you might have! I'm a little freaked out now!
-Jane

retardo
3rd Mar 2006, 02:42 AM
Three Questions for all of you:

1) Has anyone else seen these things, or had a similar experience? Retardo, you mentioned something that might have been similar - was it like what I've seen? The one on the wild-caught shrimp I thought was an isolated incident, but this second appearance of the same type of thing suggests it is more prevalent.

From the description you gave, Jane, it seems like it is very similar, if not the same, as the leech I encountered. I have not come across this again, so it was an isolated experience for me.


2) Is this thing Parasitic? Is it harming the shrimp or feeding on it in some way? or is it simply Opportunistic (ie it attaches to the shrimp because the shrimp forages for food, and it is along for the ride only)?

Leeches are by definition parasites; however, I don't believe that the leeches in these cases are feeding off the shrimp themselves. The exoskeleton of the shrimp must be penetrated before the leech can derive the nutrients that otherwise would've been used by the shrimp. I do believe it is opportunistic, as you say, since you've observed it oscillating back and forth from the body of the shrimp. I would imagine it is the feeding behavior or the leech since it cannot directly derive its food source from the shrimp.


3) Does anyone know what the life cycle is - is there a freeswimming component that could attach to other shrimp? Is it safe to put the shrimp from whom I removed the leeches back into the main tank, or is she a "carrier" now?

I have yet to observe any freeswimming behavior from the leeches. I believe they move about like snails/slugs, but they have very strong "suction" legs that allow them to attach to other shrimp. If I were you, I'd put the affected shrimp into isolation for a little while, just to see if any more leeches appear. If there is no reoccurence, then I think it would be safe to return the shrimp with its companions. I don't believe they serve as carriers and will infect the rest of your population. Leech lifecycles are relatively short, so they may reproduce rapidly, especially if a food source is readily available and abundant.


Good luck! Let us know if you observe this again!

Disclaimer: Please take these statements with a grain of salt, though, please, as I am by no means an expert and is all speculation/educated conjecture.

silane
3rd Mar 2006, 03:31 AM
Jane,

Those worms that burrow itself in shrimp head/body is quite common. Quite a number of those who bought wild caught shrimp reported. Seems that yours is external attachment leech, this is something interesting.

Can you try to breed the 2 leechs you have collected without a host? That should be interesting to know if such worms able to spread/suvive with a host.

retardo
3rd Mar 2006, 08:15 AM
Almost forgot to add that leeches will make a feast out of eggs if a female manages to "lay" her eggs and is infected. The eggs are permeable by a leech's mouth and once breached, will provide a source of nutrition for them, almost an endless supply. One leech can probably destroy the viability of an entire brood. Definitely something to look out for and not something you want.

Jane of Upton
3rd Mar 2006, 12:11 PM
Yikes! The egg feasting sounds like bad news! I removed the two from that single shrimp, she's still in isolation, but I don't see anything more. They were fairly easy to spot, as even completely compressed, they were opaque, and differed from the shrimp's clear-ish head parts.

The leeches are in a small cup, and still waving about. Fruitpie, while the thought of "breeding" leeches gives me the shudders, I see your point to find out if there is an intermediate life stage. I guess I'll put in a bit of food, and continue to observe these.

Meanwhile, the shrimp seems fine, eating, and picking at the java moss. I'll observe her for a few more days before re-introducing her to the group.

Thanks for all the input! I'm sure glad these are NOT the boring-type worms! That sounds fatal!

Thanks!
-Jane

retardo
3rd Mar 2006, 06:10 PM
Jane, honestly, I don't think the affected shrimp poses any type of danger to the other shrimp. It doesn't hurt to keep her isolated for a few days. Re: leeches and eggs, I have heard stories of others finding leeches among fertile eggs from a personal friend of mine... I know she posted about it before somewhere, but I have to find the post(s).

Jane of Upton
3rd Mar 2006, 09:48 PM
The egg-eating trait indeed sounds like it could hurt the viability of an entire colony!

I tried to do a search through the old posts, using both "leech" and "parasite" (together and separate) as keywords. I read through a bunch of past posts, but your comment in the 'large leech' thread was the closest thing I could find.

I've been examining the others closely for any other signs of this, just in case its something that isn't visible right away.

Meanwhile, the leeches are still alive, and waving about, one still attached to the bit of the poor shrimp's face part. *creepy*!

-Jane