Wild Shrimp from the Philipines

[GreenDust]

I am GreenDust and I'm from the Philippines.

I'm keeping Shrimps caught from the wild. At first I was unsuccessful in getting them from their natural habitat to their artificial home since I still know little things about shrimp keeping and their requirements. But now I am able to keep them in several tanks and pond.
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These are local shrimps that I believe in NeoCaridina family but I am not too confident about that since I haven't had the success in making the proper ID. Maybe someone can help me out figuring out what's the real classification.
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In the wild these cute little critters display different colors as blue, black, red, gray and glass-like form as if they were little ghost. Now I have about more than 500 of them living in different tanks and pond.

Recently, I started to acquire more species. As starter (Newbie in the hobby) I started collecting Red Cherries and Ninja Shrimps with few Malayan Shrimps. I am so inspired with the efforts and dedication of a friend MananaP in keeping his lovely shrimps and got hooked with so many different kinds of shrimps that keep my heart pounding to try them all. Maybe joining ShrimpNow would help me acquire knowledge in keeping easy to hard type inverts since I'm going towards my prime and the hobby caught me just now.

Please bear with me as I would like to gain friends not just info about shrimps. GOD Bless.

[hibi]

Hi gd! Welcome to shrimpnow! :)

Are those your q shrimp? Do they require brackish water to breed? They look like glass/ghost shrimps. But lets wait for
Comments from the masters. :)

[mickdeja]

Welcome aboard. Hope yer stay here is a good one. Some nice pics there. Keep 'em comin please.

[2Toned]

Welcome, GreenDust. The shrimp look interesting, a few large eggs... typical of Neocaridina.

Like you, I'm a late bloomer. But shrimp and mosses are now my passion.

Enjoy the forum, it's a wonderful place to learn & share.

Tony

[GreenDust]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys. My friend from California also wanted to have the exact ID of this little guys he even named them "Neocaridina Lucbanensis". They are fresh water shrimp who live in cold water springs in our area. Average temperature during summer is 24 deg C and during rainy days in can go down to 18 deg. TDS of our stream here is 140-145 while pH is 7.4. It is normal in our springs go towards alkaline side so I think Sulawesi may be good to try.

[GreenDust]

I just wanted to share how we get them in the wild by showing you some pictures:

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Some Riccia, favorite hiding place of these wild shrimps

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Here's another good source, covered with wild Moss. The moss there is similar to Spiky Moss

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My daughter helping me out in catching some of them. She enjoyed our trip to the wild.

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Some our catch

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Acclimation needed using our tap water takes at least an hour so they can adapt to higher temperature of 28 deg. That's it for now, will share some pics later on.

[hibi]

Nice share gd! Maybe you Can bring some and share it on july 19 aquafiesta! Heheh

[Frank]

Many thanks for the nice pics and information. I love to see the natural habitats.

[Cipher]

wow never knew philippines have some awesome native plants and shrimps, i sure miss it, I wna go back and live there for good :P maybe i'd go back there for a vacation and buy a condo and set up a tank just for them lol

[GreenDust]

Here are the shrimps in my tank:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/th_19072011.jpg (http://s397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/?action=view&current=19072011.mp4)

«Click the image above to view the video clip»

[GreenDust]

Here are some more pictures of wild shirmp expedition:

Crystal Clear water from the cold river:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/IMG_2339.jpg

The river bed:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/IMG_2298.jpg
I think CRS will survive in this river since temperature is 24 C while tropical temperature ranges 29-31 C. During rainy seasons it can drop to 19 C.

One of the lagoons:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/IMG_2332.jpg

[GreenDust]

Natural spring water, this is the natural potable water source of locals:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/IMG_2302.jpg

On the river banks where there are Moss, Ferns, Blyxia, Crypts we can find the Wild Shrimps:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/DSC00263.jpg

Here's my wife and daughter collecting some Wild Shrimps:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/MyFone417.jpg

Finally in their quaratine tank:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/feeder1.jpg

[wklotz]

Hi!


Thanks for the warm welcome guys. My friend from California also wanted to have the exact ID of this little guys he even named them "Neocaridina Lucbanensis".

It is almost impossible to determine a shrimp species on basis of live coloration pics. If you really want to know the ID of the shrimp you collected you have to send some specimen preserved in 70% Ethanol for a microscopical examination.
Until now Neocaridina sp. are not known from Quezon Province, Philippines. Most species known from there belong to less known genera like Edoneus or Parisia.
It´s possible that this shrimp are not native to this rivers but introduced like Neocaridina heteropoda/denticulata sinensis in some waters of Japan or Hawai.
If you can send some specimen we will know.

Cheers
Werner

[GreenDust]

Hi Werner,

Thanks for the info, if you can PM me an address where I should send them I will try to send them via DHL.

[wklotz]

Hi!
Seems it´s not possible to send you a PM. But anyway: you can send the material to my private adress:
Werner Klotz
Wiesenweg 1
6063 Rum
AUSTRIA

Please include following message in the parcel:

Notice for Postal Inspectors

This package contains:

Preserved museum natural history specimens.
For scientific research only.
No CITES listed or endangered species.
No commercial value.


Recipient details:
Werner Klotz
Wiesenweg 1
6063 Rum
AUSTRIA
tel. +43 664 3704781

Cheers
Werner

[GreenDust]

Ok will prepare the specimen and let you know when I shipped it already. Thanks for the help sir.

Abel

[wklotz]

Hi Abel!

Ok will prepare the specimen and let you know when I shipped it already.

Please try to include at least 2 or 3 adult male specimen and if possible 1 or 2 ovigerous females because morphology of male sexual appendages and egg size are important taxonomical characters.
It would be fine if you alse include some data of the collection site so we can use the data for scientific work on atyid shrimp biogeogryphy.

Regards
Werner

[GreenDust]

Ok Werner,

Will select good specimens and I will have to return to the source to record some data. BTW, I also wanted to share what I captured from one of the natural springs where these wild shrimps thrive.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/th_MVI_2344.jpg (http://s397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/?action=view&current=MVI_2344.mp4)

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[GreenDust]

More natural spring:

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/IMG_9490.jpg

My daughter collecting plant samples:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/IMG_9486.jpg

I love this place so much that it became an inspiration to one of my aquascape called "Igiban" (water spring). This pic was taken during summer time but water temperature here was about 18-26 C.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp53/blake42_photo/batch83/Part%202/IMG_9495.jpg

This is the main source of water coming from the ground. So I'm wondering if the shrimps were introduced here or they were there naturally. I hope Werner can help me find out the real answer.

[GreenDust]

Hi!
Seems it´s not possible to send you a PM. But anyway: you can send the material to my private adress:
Werner Klotz
Wiesenweg 1
6063 Rum
AUSTRIA

Please include following message in the parcel:

Notice for Postal Inspectors

This package contains:

Preserved museum natural history specimens.
For scientific research only.
No CITES listed or endangered species.
No commercial value.


Recipient details:
Werner Klotz
Wiesenweg 1
6063 Rum
AUSTRIA
tel. +43 664 3704781

Cheers
Werner

Hi Werner,

Just got a quote from DHL for a small parcel of 0.5 Kg it will cost $ 64 US minimum. I might ship them a little later to give priority to my other urgent bills but still I am going to send it to you. Please bear with me, thanks.

Abel

[zane]

Hi GreenDust,
Absolutely amazing environment and beautiful shrimp! Great pics too! I did do some research and a N. lucabanensis is not listed in the catalog I use for identifying species. I may be able to help identify the species but I trust Warner will give you a species name after examining their morphology. May I ask what the water conditions (pH and temperature specifically) are in the major areas where you are finding these little shrimp?

And Warner I fully agree with you and wish you luck examining the shrimp, please let me know of the results. I suspect if it is Neocaridina it is one of the less known subspecies of N. denticulata or one of the other species found in Japan and/or Taiwan.

[GreenDust]

Hi Zane,

Temperature from the source when I got them was 24 deg C and pH was 7.2, TDS was 143. Forgot to check the gH and kH then but next time I go back to the place I will get the other readings. Thanks for the appreciation sir.

Here are some of them in my Shrimp Tank:
http://www.facebook.com/v/2125167962388

[kermit01]

wow! really interesting! hope you guys find out what species it is. goodluck!

[zane]

Thanks for the info, that is in the normal range for water conditions and similar to those found in Taiwan. I still suspect Neocaridina denticulata but there are plenty of other possibilities. Great video, they are really active! Your tank looks like a perfect habitat for them, too. I hope you are able to get an identification on these shrimp soon

[vandominic]

Thanks for sharing sir Greendust! It's really great that you also see riccia in the wild!

[wolvesbaine]

nice place.ive been interested with shrimps and planted tanks.I got 40G cichlid tank.then bought 5G tank as a starter for planted tank.im from upper north of cagayan valley.we have a large river here where i also caught some same species that you caught.also a very few rainbow shrimps i think the ones that have a stripe in there back and changes colors from blue,violet,red,transparent like glass/grass shrimps even to a total black where a white stripes run along their back.However, I am unable to get some riccia here.I would love to have some riccia in my aquarium.any donors? haha... ill post some of my shrimps here...

[zergling]

Wow! I knew my home country has the best reef diving spots in the world, but had no idea our freshwater stuff is also interesting! Then again, I was born and raised in Manila....were guppies can be found breeding in the kanal (sewers)!

[BiNgO]

nandito narin pala si boss GD. Shrimp mode.