Just a theory about breeding the exotic ones

[Kingkong]

Hi guys,

I saw a vid from Imke today about some taiwanese breeders in section field trip and events.

Now, I'm a rookie without a tank yet so this is what I know up till now (not much ;) )

We have superior expertise about genetics, breeding programs, lines etc ( I read alot from Silane and Imke). This is pretty hard to understand and we might need a whole bunch of tanks to get results. Results you will get, just look at the masterpieces from Silane!!

So back to the vid I saw a couple of top breeders in Taiwan just using 2 till 4 tanks. There were a lot of highgrades and low grade shrimps in there. My question is:

I'll buy myself 2 tanks, buy some mix grades shrimps black and red, heck let us put in a black tiger and a snowwhite. Wait for a year, select the ugly and bad ones out of the tank and feed it to the goldfish. Look for highgrades shrimps on the internet, buy it and put it in the selectiontank for further breeding. Is this the method these topbreeders use?
Or is this just to simpleminded

[eviltrain]

Err, which sp of shrimps you intend to breed in the first place? Why not just start from the more hardier ones like cherries before you start rearing crs?

[Kingkong]

Thanks for your comment,

Well I have a bunch of cherries in my tank with small fishes. I always tried to achieve my max potention on everything I do especially on sports (study is good, no great ;)). So, I know there are more simple species to begin with, but thats why I'm here to read, learn and talk with the better ones.

Let's compare a cherry next to a Ruby Red:

Cherry: ewww (nothing personal to cherry lovers)
Ruby Red: wowwww

Yes, I want to start with CR, CB and Taiwan bees (but hard to get in the Netherlands)


But my thread is more about the theory...does it make any sense?


If I sound cocky, I'm not. Just very ambitious and know what I like.

[Fento]

In my opinion it doesn't "matter" wich specie you work on selective breeding but the selection itself. You can get taiwan strains but everybodie says it's hard to keep them alive (above all, at moultin time when they're young), and it'll be harder to achieve a good selective line (avoiding unfertilities, malformations [...] ). You shouldn't underestimate other easier species, despite they're more "common", with a proper breeding they may surprise you. It's not my intention to change your mind (I encourage you, if you really want, go ahead!!! it's up to you)
In my opinion, I think you should have more tanks at least 2 for CRS/CBS grade selection and another 2 for mixes with tiger and unselected (but I don't know if crossing with BT you'll be able to get taiwan bees). Top breeders use lots of tanks to get every shrimp generation identified, so that they can cross them and get genetical combinations under control. There's at the forum a selective breeding article (thanks a lot Imke), very useful to understand a good way to do it.

[Kingkong]

Thanks,

Im not under estimating the cherries, but thanks for the encouraging.

That is why i started this thread, because i saw the vid imke put on this forum about the taiwan breeders. They are just using 2 to 6 tanks instead of 20-24.

Which article is it from imke about selective breeding? There are like 85 threads posted by imke