Willow Moss

[Dincho]

This morning i had a copious amount of willow moss arrive, a moss i have never used before. What it the best way for it to grow? attached to rock/wood?

[doofie22]

This morning i had a copious amount of willow moss arrive, a moss i have never used before. What it the best way for it to grow? attached to rock/wood?

imo it looks better with wood actually

[Big Dog]

I would use wood.

[retardo]

Definitely wood. If you know what a weeping willow tree looks like, it will have a similar effect, hence the name, willow moss. A treescape would look very nice with this moss.

[Anubia]

This morning i had a copious amount of willow moss arrive, a moss i have never used before. What it the best way for it to grow? attached to rock/wood?

It has to be wood.....to mount and attach it's easier to use a small ( and I mean small) blob of super glue gel. Holds the willow moss inplace without the need to tie which is a delicate operation with willow moss as it keeps breaking up as you attempt to tie in. As long as the hardscape is dry the glue will cure/dry almost immediatley..

It is a lovely moss though so good luck with it...

[Dincho]

Thanks for the replies.

I have never used glue to hold moss so i think i will give that a go, or at least try :) I have so much of the stuff it wont matter if i mess it up a few times :) I currently have it soaking in a bucket, this morning i noticed LOADS of little white worm like creatures hanging from it. I don't think it is planaria, they seem to have dark heads with little pincers. Any ideas what they could be?

[doofie22]

It has to be wood.....to mount and attach it's easier to use a small ( and I mean small) blob of super glue gel. Holds the willow moss inplace without the need to tie which is a delicate operation with willow moss as it keeps breaking up as you attempt to tie in. As long as the hardscape is dry the glue will cure/dry almost immediatley..

It is a lovely moss though so good luck with it...

hope you dont mind but could you share your experience using glue? i've tried using those gel glue that is used to glue glass and aquarium. Its kinda white or transparent in colour, so when i use it with christmas moss on my wood, the moss semes to die off on the part that glue on it. in the end, i've to use really fine fishing line instead. Do you have the same problem?

[zacks]

willow moss will need a cold temperature..........in my 3 tanks.....never been succesbefore.......but after i put in the cold tank.......they growth wildly.......lol

can you believe it when at 26-28c temp they will stagnant and it;s only a matter of time and then gone.......lol

[Dincho]

willow moss will need a cold temperature..........in my 3 tanks.....never been succesbefore.......but after i put in the cold tank.......they growth wildly.......lol

can you believe it when at 26-28c temp they will stagnant and it;s only a matter of time and then gone.......lol

Has anyone else experienced this?

[Abhishek]

Yes with willow, weeping, flame and fissidens.. the cooler the temperature the better they are :)

[Robert]

Hi,
I kept willow moss for quite a while and it will definitely not last in a warm tank. The fonds become smaller and smaller and it slowly dies, albeit it can take up to a year to see it happen. It grows best in cold water, so I would rather use it in a pond but not in a tropical shrimp tank. Temps till 22°C might be OK because it has to endure such temps in nature, too. But it grows best in cold water, e.g. during the European winter.

@Dincho: It seems like your willow moss was collected in the wild. It's normal to find thousands of tiny creatures in it. To rinse the moss will take weeks at least. Be very careful if you try to use bleach or hot water (35°C or more). The wollow moss is a fragile plant and dies easily after souch a procedure. You might see it a few days later.

Best regards,
Robert

[Dincho]

Thanks again for the replies! I guess i will throw the willow moss in my goldfish tank and let them eat it :(

I already have some java moss on order, what other moss will grow well in warmer water?

[Abhishek]

You can send the willow moss to me I will take care of it ;)
And buddy bulk of the moss require cooler temperature, in higher temp. they turn brown and die.

[Dincho]

So why do people suggest shrimp and moss go hand in hand, when in fact they need different water temps :(

[Abhishek]

Who said buddy they require different temp.?
Shrimps prefer also low temperature, seen my crs and tiger breed good in temperature lower than 25c and at that temp. your moss will also survive.
And what I know that moss acts good base for shrimplets and also provide food sources to them.

[Dincho]

Ok i think i got confused some where along the way. I have never had moss in a shrimp tank so i am setting up 4 new tanks and thought i would have moss in them. From what i understood from this thread i thought people were saying a temp of 22-23 was too high for moss.

[zacks]

Hi,
I kept willow moss for quite a while and it will definitely not last in a warm tank. The fonds become smaller and smaller and it slowly dies, albeit it can take up to a year to see it happen. It grows best in cold water, so I would rather use it in a pond but not in a tropical shrimp tank. Temps till 22°C might be OK because it has to endure such temps in nature, too. But it grows best in cold water, e.g. during the European winter.

@Dincho: It seems like your willow moss was collected in the wild. It's normal to find thousands of tiny creatures in it. To rinse the moss will take weeks at least. Be very careful if you try to use bleach or hot water (35°C or more). The wollow moss is a fragile plant and dies easily after souch a procedure. You might see it a few days later.

Best regards,
Robert
i have the same exp like yours robert :)

So why do people suggest shrimp and moss go hand in hand, when in fact they need different water temps :(
this is my 1st time to hear that lol
usually the ideal temp for shrimps is 24 when the temps lower thank that shrimp will inactive......and for plant like moss or any plant 24 temp is the ideal temp ? during the many people who say that low temperature, the easier plants to absorb CO2 but the fact is, when the low temperature CO2 is more easily dissolved in water colder. so from now we should understand what is needed by plants via the temperature is as I described above.....

Ok i think i got confused some where along the way. I have never had moss in a shrimp tank so i am setting up 4 new tanks and thought i would have moss in them. From what i understood from this thread i thought people were saying a temp of 22-23 was too high for moss.

not what you heard is wrong just do as i said it would help you to the right basic of aquascape......:)

[zacks]

You can send the willow moss to me I will take care of it ;)
And buddy bulk of the moss require cooler temperature, in higher temp. they turn brown and die.

not all of the moss need low temp......

i can growth taiwan moss super crazy.......because taiwan is the most hardest survive most and they're very easy to keep without too much requirements.........

but i have some experience in 27-28 spiky moss,x mass moss, mini x mass, peacock and fissiden us can live at that temp....but in low temp they will growth different....what i mean different is they're more lush....:)

here's the example of my moss at low temp.......:D

hope you guys enjoy it

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[Anubia]

hope you dont mind but could you share your experience using glue? i've tried using those gel glue that is used to glue glass and aquarium. Its kinda white or transparent in colour, so when i use it with christmas moss on my wood, the moss semes to die off on the part that glue on it. in the end, i've to use really fine fishing line instead. Do you have the same problem?

Ho Doofie...yes I use Super Glue Gel....this is not a silicate (silicon) but an actual glue - Google ' Loctite Super Glue Control Gel ' This is what I use and this was recommended by aqauscapers on another forum. Most of these guys use this with brittle mosses that continue to break off when attempting to be tied by thread/ cotton or fishing line.

As stated you only need a minute speck of glue to anchor the moss species. Once the moss takes hold and grows you will never know a glue was used....

Hope this helps...