View Full Version : It's Tiger time...
kross
8th Nov 2005, 02:49 PM
Got some jumbo size Tiger shrimps yesterday. Any idea why is it so difficult to keep it alive?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/1dc4cf9a.jpg
cheers...
Pconnieae
8th Nov 2005, 03:03 PM
Really nice! :)
I would like to find some like that.
silane
8th Nov 2005, 03:24 PM
Nice one, hardly see nicely defined stripes tiger these days.
Cool water is essential for them to survival. Are you keeping them with your CRS? They will cross.
Robert
8th Nov 2005, 07:49 PM
WOW, the picture is really great.
Never had the chance to take such a good one, limited by my camera. I wish you good luck with them and keep them well.
best regards
Robert
dom
9th Nov 2005, 12:21 AM
wow..nice picture and nice tiger. i had them without any problem in temp 27-28C.
kross
9th Nov 2005, 12:57 AM
Thanks guys. :)
Hi Fruitpie,
I'm keeping them separated from my crs. :D
I will my very best to keep them alive.
Would love to breed them. One of my fav shrimps.
cheers....
Huatzzzz
9th Nov 2005, 02:25 AM
Beautiful tiger! Very define stripes! I am keeping them at about 26-27C w/o any problem, of cause mine not as "swee" as yours.
I have seem my tiger pregnant before, but has yet to see their offspring. currently has one mother again, hopefully can see their babies soon.
BlueEL
9th Nov 2005, 03:18 AM
Wow that's one good looking Tiger with orange head and tail, the markings are much stronger than my. I am wondering if those are from China, and the thinner strip ones are from another country.
Thinner strips
http://www.shrimpnow.com/mygallery/files/1/8/Blue.jpg
retardo
9th Nov 2005, 03:23 AM
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
WOW!!! Very nice! I agree with fruitpie, definitely one of the finest specimens of tiger I've seen to date. It is also one of my faves as well. I managed to get a hold of about 40 tigers some time back, but I haven't been able to breed them successfully myself.
Cooler water is definitely a plus (70-75 degrees). I've read that keeping them in softer water is preferable. One of my buddies recommends using RO water that is revitalized with Equilibrium to promote a KH and GH balance. He's kept CRS with success using this method. I personally have yet to try this method, but am seriously considering now. Good luck!
Frank
9th Nov 2005, 06:32 PM
Hello,
I have the same tigers as the first photo. The stripes are dark brown/red and big.
I also had good luck, because i have some with blue ground. :D
Robert
9th Nov 2005, 10:13 PM
Hi Frank,
in Germany such tiger shrimps are pretty easy to find. We can breed them easily without any effort and we even have different color varieties like blue, black, blond-eyes etc. . But for our Asian friends it is a problem to keep them even alive because of the tropical climate and the quality of their tap water, which you can't compare with our one. BTW, Frank, I would like to see your blue tiger shrimps!
bis dann
Robert
simcb
10th Nov 2005, 12:24 AM
Kross are those wild tigers?
Usually farm bred ones are duller with thin stripes.
GunmetalBlue
10th Nov 2005, 01:09 AM
Kross, why do you tease us with only one beautiful pic? :D
Hope you'll be able to figure out a way for them to successfully breed. Good luck!
-GB
theguy418
10th Nov 2005, 01:48 AM
Hey yea I have no problems keeping tigers now(finally), but its really difficult for my friend and me to keep the baby shrimps alive. Any advice from the expert keepers out there?
Retardo, I noticed we're both from the same area. I would like to talk to you more about shrimps and s.f. conditions and availability. I can't PM you maybe because I'm new to this site. It'll be nice to meet more shrimp hobbyist, too.
Hope to hear from you soon.
kross
10th Nov 2005, 03:39 AM
Hi Simcb, I think they are wild. You may want to check with the LFS(Eco).
Hi GB, I'm trying to improve my aqua photography technique. So I'll have to be strict to myself. Just post "quality" rather then "quantity". lol :p
Frank
10th Nov 2005, 06:58 PM
Hi Robert,
A already sent a pic of my blue tigers in: German CRS trend. (My pics are not so great quality)
Sure itīs more difficult to cool a tank than to heat it.
tschau + best regards
Frank
retardo
10th Nov 2005, 07:52 PM
Retardo, I noticed we're both from the same area. I would like to talk to you more about shrimps and s.f. conditions and availability. I can't PM you maybe because I'm new to this site. It'll be nice to meet more shrimp hobbyist, too.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Check you Private Messaging and/or email settings in your User CP. You are not set up to receive private messages or emails.
eyal
10th Nov 2005, 09:25 PM
fantastic picture , and even more fantastic tiger shrimp :smitten: :smitten:
retardo
14th Nov 2005, 11:52 PM
Hey yea I have no problems keeping tigers now(finally), but its really difficult for my friend and me to keep the baby shrimps alive. Any advice from the expert keepers out there?
Retardo, I noticed we're both from the same area. I would like to talk to you more about shrimps and s.f. conditions and availability. I can't PM you maybe because I'm new to this site. It'll be nice to meet more shrimp hobbyist, too.
Hope to hear from you soon.
TG418,
contact me offline... youngrichkd at yahoo
-r
milalic
16th Nov 2005, 09:58 PM
retardo/TG418,
I will like to get in touch with you guys regarding the tiger shrimps.
I do have several pregnant females, but I am also having a hard time getting the babies to survive. I cannot sent private messages here...if you can e-mail me at q_low_designs at yahoo i will appreciate it.
Thanks
BlueEL
17th Nov 2005, 12:44 AM
Please share the information on how to keep the tiger babies survive if you guys dont mind. :D I couldnt keep the babies pass 1 week, I see less day by day until all died.
Does the babies usually start picking for food after a day or so? because my just sat there and do nothing.
masni
17th Nov 2005, 05:03 PM
Hello
I'm new to this forum but i've got a little experience with tigers so i thought i would throw in a message.
My tigers, with some having a blue background, do fairly well in a 20 l bare bottom air filtered tank. water is 25 ° C, Ph 8.5 and french hardness about 30 °. i have shrimplets every once in a while (like every month or so) from at least one female.
The shrimplets are (in my opinion) as easy to grow as cherry red's. i do nothing, i usually am not that good at water changing.
Easier than other "species" or "varieties" of the serrata group.
Easier than the species of the Babaulti group.
And of course eaiser than the Nilotica/gracilirostris group.
The blue background is the point on wich i have yet to work since it doesnt seem to get fixed as easily as i first thought.
hope this will help.
lilian
Frank
17th Nov 2005, 05:14 PM
Yeah, itīs the problem with the blue ones. Not all the babies are blue and maybe the older shrimps are not blue all the time. Thatīs difficult for me to say because i have not enough tanks to check that.
My parameters are: PH about 7 and german hardness about 6°
No problems by 15-30°C, this species is good for colder conditions.
Frank
BlueEL
17th Nov 2005, 06:51 PM
Hey masni welcome to the board! Thank you for sharing your experience on tigers. I never knew any shrimps would able to do good at such high PH. My PH is at 8 and I thought it was high and dangerous for my shrimps (tigers, cherries, bumble bee). Now I think most people who dont have much success in keeping tigers, is because their PH is too low.
Btw, how long after shrimplets born before start picking for food? Just want to know if my tiger shrimplets were killed of starvation.
masni
17th Nov 2005, 08:07 PM
My Ph doesnt seem to bother either my tigers, nor my others shrimps, wich are :
Caridina gracilirostris
Caridina sp "tiwari" (i think in the USA and elswhere this one is called sp rainbow)
Caridina sp Blauschwanz
Caridina sp. cf. babaulti "green" (Ceylanica?)
Neocaridina denticulata
cherry reds
and Atyaephira desmareti
All these thrive in such water parameters although most records in natural habitat i have heard of mention a Ph much lower.
I have also had more or less succes with other species such as bees and bumble bees
Each shrimp species is settled in a species tank overgrown with java moss and floating java fern or anubias. They live their lives. The only losses i have encountered occured after my tanks reached 32 ° C!
Perhaps the fact that my shrimp support such parameters is related to an other fact wich is that i work for a tropical fish wholesaler. therefor i receive the shrimps and "acclimatate" them the best way i can.
I dont really know when the shrimplets start to feed as the tanks are really overgrown, so they have plenty of food available at all time. I start seeing them coming up for food when they measure about 1.5-2 mm.
sorry for being that long
Robert
17th Nov 2005, 09:09 PM
Hi masni,
welcome to ShrimpNow! Don't worry about long posts, we like them as well.
Tiger shrimps are really no super sensitive species, there are lots of other species which are harder to keep. For tiger shrimps the most critical factores should be chlorine/chloramine level, the pH and the temperature. Of course copper and other strong toxic stuffs are a "no no".
But if you have a good tap water with no or very little chlorine and other poisons, it is possible to keep them in rock hard water with a pH of 7,5-8 and temperatures of 25-30°C. I do this every summer for several years now. Provide a good filtration and a good oxigen level and they are fine.
But they do better in colder water of 20-25°C (-> more oxigen is solved in the water and they come from subtropical regions, so they are used to such colder temperatures).
best regards
Robert
Walter
21st Nov 2005, 04:04 AM
That's one thick banded, clear contrasting striped tiger shrimp! Give that man a tiger beer! :p
kross
21st Nov 2005, 11:48 AM
That's one thick banded, clear contrasting striped tiger shrimp! Give that man a tiger beer! :p
Eh.... I prefer CAFFREY'S. :D :santa2:
kross
24th Nov 2005, 12:20 PM
Managed to take some tiger shots lastnight. They looked more natural because I decided to take without flash and it was difficult because of motion blur from the shrimp's movement. Hope it's ok. Enjoy! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/8d956f5e.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/d1cb599a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/75adbf08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/b157cf4c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/Kkross/9275f228.jpg
Cheers! :elf: :santa3:
Walter
3rd Dec 2005, 10:58 AM
The same mouth-opening response, wow! :D:Dlol
Frank
3rd Dec 2005, 03:10 PM
Great pics and great shrimps. Really nice.
Congratulations!
Frank
kross
3rd Dec 2005, 04:06 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.
I'm hoping to breed them. One female carried eggs lasst week but dropped everyone of them the next few days! :undecided
I'll just have to wait for a miracle to happen.... 2 tigers died yesterday...sigh...
milalic
3rd Dec 2005, 04:09 PM
I wish you luck on this. I have a few females carrying eggs. I can see tiny white spots. It seems they carry the eggs for around 30 days. I am crossing my fingers that I have some baby shrimp soon.
milalic
3rd Dec 2005, 04:10 PM
One of the females no longer have the eggs. She might have released the shrimp.
kross
3rd Dec 2005, 04:19 PM
Milalic, I hope yours will turn out well.
I do have successful released tiger shrimplets in my office tank. One thing for sure....low temp, around 25C, tends to keep the shrimps happy. The tanks in my house is around 28C. Pretty high... Gonna get a chiller once I move house. :D
Btw, it seems like the stripes are not as intense or thick on my second generation tigers... :undecided
Frank
3rd Dec 2005, 04:48 PM
For best quality tigers you always have to select them for breeding (only the best colors and stripes). Youīre right trying to get lower temperatures. In nature they only have 10°C in winter as far as i know.
Frank
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