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gr81
3rd Nov 2005, 09:25 AM
I red here on forum about dferent grades of CRS. Can somebody explain me, please, what is differece between?
Why some are relatively cheap and other extreamly high?
Here in middleeast Europe is problem to buy any kind of shrimp, including Cherry, and CRS are very very rare. no grades.
ice-cream
3rd Nov 2005, 09:39 AM
I red here on forum about dferent grades of CRS. Can somebody explain me, please, what is differece between?
Why some are relatively cheap and other extreamly high?
Here in middleeast Europe is problem to buy any kind of shrimp, including Cherry, and CRS are very very rare. no grades.
See fruitpie grading guide. http://www.shrimpnow.com/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=21
ice-cream
3rd Nov 2005, 09:42 AM
In singapore, we are very fortunate to have access to all kinds of shrimps. But sadly, alot of people take it for granted and does not take good care of their shrimp cos we can get it quite cheaply here...
gr81
3rd Nov 2005, 09:52 AM
surre, many speccies comes from there :)
Is it so, that you can go to river use net and catch i.e: BumbleBee? :D
ice-cream
3rd Nov 2005, 10:13 AM
surre, many speccies comes from there :)
Is it so, that you can go to river use net and catch i.e: BumbleBee? :D
Bumblebee is not from singapore, i know of a website which sell singapore bumblebees and singapore tiger shrimps, in fact they are originate from china and not from singapore. Singapore is just a exporting country, they don't produce these type of beautiful shrimps. The only shrimp which is abundant in singapore water is ghost shrimps.....
jon
3rd Nov 2005, 02:30 PM
ha , agreed :) we are indeed fortunate to have access to lots of shrimps here, but able to keep them alive and multiply is a problem with the weather here :p
regards
ice-cream
4th Nov 2005, 02:28 AM
ha , agreed :) we are indeed fortunate to have access to lots of shrimps here, but able to keep them alive and multiply is a problem with the weather here :p
regards
The only option for us is to use chiller to keep the temperature down. Considering the fact that we can get most type of shrimp cheaply here, most of us here do not use a chiller. In the end, we keep complaining why our shrimp die, keep posting how to keep tigers and bees alive.
myrontay
6th Apr 2006, 05:30 AM
I think this is an appropriate place to put this up for discussion. Personally, I do not see why the fixation is with having more white = more valuable in CRS. I can understand the rarity and beauty of a pure white CRS (which I assume is the ultimate for most breeders) but I would take a perfectly nice banded (equal red and white banding with no imperfections, including the tail) over a tiger tooth or hinomaru any day.
retardo
6th Apr 2006, 08:06 AM
My guess is the cost is linked to the extra effort it takes to selectively breed the patterns found in the tiger tooth and hinomaru or whatnot.
myrontay
6th Apr 2006, 08:18 AM
My guess is the cost is linked to the extra effort it takes to selectively breed the patterns found in the tiger tooth and hinomaru or whatnot.Don't know of anyone who selectively breeds tiger tooth or hinomaru, except maybe some Japanese breeders on the hinomaru. In any case, I suspect they are merely by-products of the ultimate breeding goal of a pure white CRS. Most tiger tooths are really culls in that regard.
retardo
6th Apr 2006, 09:42 AM
If that's the ultimate goal, you're looking at snow-whites, not CRS... lol lol
YuccaPatrol
6th Apr 2006, 01:08 PM
. . . . I would take a perfectly nice banded (equal red and white banding with no imperfections, including the tail) over a tiger tooth or hinomaru any day.
Thank you. Me too!
I just want to have some red and white banded shrimp in my tank someday. I really like shrimp, but I do know they are little bugs, not diamonds and I will not ever pay more than a few dollars for a shrimp.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate the efforts of breeders who have done amazing things to develop the high grade shrimp.
Robert
6th Apr 2006, 02:20 PM
Thank you. Me too!
I just want to have some red and white banded shrimp in my tank someday. I really like shrimp, but I do know they are little bugs, not diamonds and I will not ever pay more than a few dollars for a shrimp.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate the efforts of breeders who have done amazing things to develop the high grade shrimp.
Hi,
it's nice to see that some members still share the same opinion like the admin. I like nice banded CRS much more than these white-whatever shrimps. Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder but I prefer a nice contrast of red and white (although blue and white would look even better :D but is not possible yet :( ). I also don't share this craze of hinamaru and what ever pattern you want to see in them.
If cherry shrimps would show the same pattern, I would even prefer them. They are more hardy and easier to breed. Who cares about the profit you can make with them? There are other, easier ways to earn your pocket money.
regards
Robert
YuccaPatrol
6th Apr 2006, 02:53 PM
Oh thanks Robert. I was afraid to admit that I am a simple man with simple tastes to go along with my simple budget for shrimp-keeping.
The good thing for me is that as the shrimp hobby grows and breeders improve their stock, the nice looking banded shrimp will become more and more available at more affordable prices.
shrimp
7th Apr 2006, 09:47 AM
I think that different shrimp lovers have different points of view. But we all enjoy the satisfaction of breeding shrimps that look impressive... maybe in the owner's personal point of view or even other viewers perception. The perception of grading from appearance can be very something very subjective. One man's meat is another's posion :)
silane
7th Apr 2006, 01:43 PM
Grading is a measurement of scarcity. It is not measurement of one's preception or preference, although there maybe some difference in grading fom time to time.
shrimp
8th Apr 2006, 01:37 AM
Grading is a measurement of scarcity. It is not measurement of one's preception or preference, although there maybe some difference in grading fom time to time.
agree. grading in value depends on scarcity.
grading in appearance is subjected to personal preference.
what i mean is that different ppl look at the same thing differently, whether it looks good or not depends on personal preference.
myrontay
8th Apr 2006, 01:54 AM
Grading is a measurement of scarcity. It is not measurement of one's preception or preference, although there maybe some difference in grading fom time to time.I thought that we have been grading CRS based on appearance i.e. how each individual shrimp looks? We have been valuing the CRS based on scarcity as the only factor.
silane
8th Apr 2006, 03:56 AM
I thought that we have been grading CRS based on appearance i.e. how each individual shrimp looks? We have been valuing the CRS based on scarcity as the only factor.
Looking from another angle, individual look can be used as scarcity measurement, for example, one fine day you find a CRS that has white star pattern on the head, that's "individual look" compare with one that is round or bar, and of course the star pattern is rare too.
Now that due to the increase emerging of "indivduality" pattern, grading like SSS is no longer clearly indication a price. One would have to see the shrimp, and what features it has to determine the price. Even at SS, the range of value varies a lot.
Grading is just on pattern and color. For example, for color, super thick white is rare, it look nicer then pale white and even normal white. The taste for color is almost univeral, thick white and deep red, I have yet to hear differences in preference for color, but there is difference of taste in pattern.
I cannot think of one factor that CRS has in abundant, a lot of people prefer it and yet, it is rated as high grade.
myrontay
8th Apr 2006, 02:12 PM
I cannot think of one factor that CRS has in abundant, a lot of people prefer it and yet, it is rated as high grade.There is another function that is important - demand. But I see you point that "grading is a measurement of scarcity" - the rarer it is, the higher the grade and the higher the value.
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