Hi all! N a few question.

[gary35111]

Hi all,

I am new to 'shrimpnow', have been reading most of the posts and love it. I used to keep cherry shrimps but now decided to switch to keeping and breeding Crystal Red.

See :D , I got my paid the other day, was at Clementi BLK 328, saw these beautiful shrimps, couldn't help myself and commited the gravest (economic) sin :p I forked out $20 SG dollar for a less than 1 inch tiny shrimp. To think of it, I kinda regret it when I realise how many cherry shrimps I can get with SG $20.

Anyway, I am just curious, which of this two shrimps, Cherry and Crystal Red is a better algae eater? Some web-site says that Cherry will even eat hair algae (wow, that sure make them cool algae-eaters), but information on the type of algae crystal red eats is very minimal. And may I know if it is possible or even easy for Cherry Shrimp and Crystal red to cross breed?

Also, guys, I read your posts and realise that there are lower grade and cheaper CRS. Well, I suppose the one I bought is kinda "high a grade", but I sure don't mind getting lower and cheaper grade for my new breeding and keeping of CRS hobby. :p Hehe, I have since removed my cherry shrimp from my tank. And I wish to introduce more "cheap and lowly" CRS to my rather empty tank. Now, I just got this ONE expensive shrimp swimming around my 2.5 fts tank, anyone care to trade/sell me (reasonable price) CRS?

Just a little info on my tank. (Dark fine gravel cover with java moss and a plant in the middle + 1 oto + 1 red ramshorn snail + quite a few irritating uninvited small snails I have to remove everyday >( must have illegally immigrated with the java moss)

Gary

[jojoecute]

HEY WELCOME TO SHRIMPNOW WONDERLAND...

Great to hear that we have another Crs keeper..


Well you can get low grade crs at Clementi 328 (Best recommended LFS)
high grade crs at Nature Aquarium


Price range as below:

S grade $50 - $60 each
A grade $20.00 each
B grade $10.00 each
C grade $8.00 each
D grade $4.00 each

Hope you enjoy keeping crs...

[NanoDave]

They didn't have grade C or D when I went there last week...

(in the end i bought some bees at $0.50. Didn't acclimate them and didn't use any of the water in the packet (there were dead shrimps in the tank where they came from), in the end all died.. :p )

[retardo]

Given that cherries and CRS are roughly the same size (they don't get very big), the amount of algae they can eat is probably about the same. I don't know what specific types of algae they will eat. I will let others who are more familiar take on that question.

[simcb]

Given that cherries and CRS are roughly the same size (they don't get very big), the amount of algae they can eat is probably about the same. I don't know what specific types of algae they will eat. I will let others who are more familiar take on that question.

I played with cherries. They dont really like to munch on algae unless they are starve(mostly hair algae). I believe they are mainly scavengers. Yamato and Black shell on the other hand, eat most algae(hair algae and BBA) same with these two they wouldnt touch any algae in your tank unless u feed them less or starve them.

As for CRS i believe i saw one of my diamonds munching on a small patch of BBA when i started keeping diamonds. No chance to find out later because after i perfected my water parameters of my planted C02 tank for my diamonds. The hair and BBA is suppressed and hardly seen. Now i am able to breed the wild diamonds, however the offsprings looks like a normal B grade diamond without the wild feature :huh: . I wonder is it because of the water in my tank and their natural habitat difference causing this? I swear my tank only consist of wild diamonds and some cherries to help eat the leftover food.

[retardo]

Now i am able to breed the wild diamonds, however the offsprings looks like a normal B grade diamond without the wild feature :huh: . I wonder is it because of the water in my tank and their natural habitat difference causing this? I swear my tank only consist of wild diamonds and some cherries to help eat the leftover food.

Water conditions cannot cause the difference in features you see. It is a genetic issue. I'm only guessing, but the traits in the wild diamonds may possibly be recessive genes while the so-called B grade diamond is the true trait that gets passed on from generation to generation. Or perhaps it takes more time for the wild features to develop. How long have you the 2nd+ generation of shrimp? Are they adults or juveniles?

[silane]

Simcb,

What do you mean by "wild feature"? It is color, pattern or physical ?

[retardo]

Simcb,

What do you mean by "wild feature"? It is color, pattern or physical ?

All of the visible features that you see whether color (e.g., color of stripes) or pattern (e.g., the width and variation of stripes) are genetically passed on.

[simcb]

Yes i mean wild feature as in: size, color, bands and patterns. Wild diamonds has a sort of fading band(bluish and white or brownish and white) look unlike those grade diamonds with thick black and white bands.

I am not sure whose offsprings they belong to. They are first F1 generation wild diamond offsprings(now 1 month old). I am getting my second F1 generation from a distinct wild female with "eyes", so far i counted roughly 5-6 survived(1 week old). By comparing these two F1s they still dont look like the females. Maybe I got to wait till they grow bigger to compare.

[retardo]

Maybe I got to wait till they grow bigger to compare.

That is exactly what you have to do. It may be too early to tell. 1-month size I'd guess would be no bigger than 6mm. I don't keep diamonds myself, but I do keep tigers. When they hatch, they do not exhibit any of the stripes that you see on the adults. I've had a very low survival rate, but they ones that did manage to get bigger begin showing their stripes at about (I'm guessing since I don't truly know how long since hatching) 2 months. Other species, such as CRS, exhibit their stripes right at birth. Wait it out, and let us know what happens, say a month from now?

[Walter]

Congrats on your CRS purchase! Well as I don't keep CRS as well, and I am a student, I feel the same way as you; that CRSs aren't worth it. But, the more I look at them in the LFS, they are just so beautiful! :D Felt they kind of deserve the credit and so many bros/sis here are crazy over them! Furthermore, treat them well and they will repay you with shrimplets! :D:D

[silane]

I am not sure whose offsprings they belong to. They are first F1 generation wild diamond offsprings(now 1 month old). I am getting my second F1 generation from a distinct wild female with "eyes", so far i counted roughly 5-6 survived(1 week old). By comparing these two F1s they still dont look like the females. Maybe I got to wait till they grow bigger to compare.


The genes of wild diamond seems to be very diversifying. I got an offspring with "eyes" and partial white tail when I used a wild diamond to cross a CRS.


Walter,
COS is the cheapest around, maybe you want to get yourself some to start with. :)

[NanoDave]

The genes of wild diamond seems to be very diversifying. I got an offspring with "eyes" and partial white tail when I used a wild diamond to cross a CRS.


Walter,
COS is the cheapest around, maybe you want to get yourself some to start with. :)

Where can I get some COS? :D

[whoosh]

Whats COS?

[jojoecute]

crs = crystal red shrimp

cos = crystal orange shrimp

Now u got it ? HaaaHaaaa



Whats COS?

[whoosh]

crs = crystal red shrimp

cos = crystal orange shrimp

Now u got it ? HaaaHaaaa

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[Just Me]

crs = crystal red shrimp

cos = crystal orange shrimp

Now u got it ? HaaaHaaaa

In that case, the black ones are got CBS = Crystal black shrimp?

[gr81]

COS? I never seen it before, post some pics, plz. (or is that some C grade of CRS?)

As I hope CBS is normal Bee, isn't it?

[silane]

COS? I never seen it before, post some pics, plz. (or is that some C grade of CRS?)

As I hope CBS is normal Bee, isn't it?


That mean to be a joke. It refers to a poor color CRS, which is orange, there is no R.

[NanoDave]

That mean to be a joke. It refers to a poor color CRS, which is orange, there is no R.

Hey when I was at joe's house I got the change to see a piece of cbrs (crystal black-red shrimp) :)

[silane]

Hey when I was at joe's house I got the change to see a piece of cbrs (crystal black-red shrimp) :)


dont you have one in your tank? :D

[NanoDave]

Mine where got red.. :beatnik: