Some Shrimp Images

[gnatster]

A couple of interesing pictures I managed to get today

I lost an ovigerous Crystal Red and other is making a snack of the eggs.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/gallery/files/1/7/3/DSCN1749_original.jpg

And then this Cherry Red female came out from under the moss for her lunch.


http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/gallery/files/1/7/3/DSCN1725_original.jpg

Just wanted to share.

[silane]

What did you feed the cherry shrimps? Look like it is a piece of butter. :D

[kross]

What did you feed the cherry shrimps? Look like it is a piece of butter. :D

I think it's cheese. :D

[gnatster]

They are called Fruity Pumpkin Crisps and I purchased them on Aquabid.

[silane]

Does Fruity Pumpkin Crisps has special effect on shrimps? It sound tasty to me too.

[gnatster]

They seem to like it quite a bit. Colors have been very good and I haven't lost a shrimp in a molt. I know there is a plenty of calcium and iodine rich greens mixed in. I think it may be more for me then for them as I get to feed a very varied diet. Besides pumpkin the food has other fresh fruits and green vegetables in at as well as eggs including the shell.

[Walter]

Does Fruity Pumpkin Crisps has special effect on shrimps? It sound tasty to me too.

Haha yeah! Me too. Sounds nice. lol

Anyway any idea on the nutritional value? :D

[silane]

Found these nitrition fact:

Boiled Cucumber (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s01vr.html)
Cooked Pumpkin (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s0291.html)
Boiled Carrot (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s01u8.html)
Cooked Spinach (http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s020z.html)

[silane]

They seem to like it quite a bit. Colors have been very good and I haven't lost a shrimp in a molt. I know there is a plenty of calcium and iodine rich greens mixed in. I think it may be more for me then for them as I get to feed a very varied diet. Besides pumpkin the food has other fresh fruits and green vegetables in at as well as eggs including the shell.

Eggs including the shell? How do you prepare it?

[gnatster]

Eggs including the shell? How do you prepare it?

I don't, I buy it already made from Aquabid.

[turbomkt]

I don't, I buy it already made from Aquabid.
Still can't post a link...

Gnatster,
I'm assuming you're using the stuff from "Justwaaaa".

How long do you think 1 oz is going to last you?

Thanks,
Mike

[gnatster]

Yes, thats the product.

1oz looks to be good for 2-3 months at least, and thats feeding a good bit of shrimp.

It's not the only food I use tho, but am thinking of making my own as I want to add things like NatureRose. The problem is you end up with so much even with a small batch. That and I don't have a dehydrator.

[turbomkt]

I've got a dehydrator :)

You'll have to let me know what your recipe, etc, is and I'll give it a try!

[silane]

Will baking instead of dehydrating work?

[turbomkt]

Actually, you should be able to use the oven to dehydrate...you just have to use a much lower temperature (140ºF) and keep the door open. This will allow the air to be exchanged and cycle the moisture out of the oven. This is a common way to make beef jerky, etc.

On the flip side...this won't help with your air temperature in the house. :(

--Mike

[turbomkt]

I just found a link that explains what I'm talking about with Jerky...
http://www.texascooking.com/features/dec2002makingjerky.htm

[gnatster]

I've got a dehydrator :)

You'll have to let me know what your recipe, etc, is and I'll give it a try!

I've mulled this over a bit and while she was nice enough to tell me the ingredients one thing I don't know is the proportions. Ethically I don't think it is my right or fair of me to give away someone else’s recipe without permission. I am also loathe to ask for that permission for a few reasons. Granted this is not patented and the info is pretty much freely found on other sites that sell a similar product but if it was me selling these and someone asked to post the recipe on the interweb I'd be a bit peeved. It's not like they sell for huge $ and cost pennies to make rendering the seller usurious profits. In that case I'd not have much of a problem in giving away the secrets.

I was about to set up two tanks to try the S-1 product, so I'll just expand the experiment a little. I'll create a new post detailing what I was thinking here and look for comments.

[turbomkt]

No problem. I've actually got some coming in to try on my shrimp.

I have been feeding crab bites, algae disks soaked with Kent ZOE vitamins, a little nori, and fresh veggies. Now I'll add the FPC to the mix. I may start thinking about my own mix as well (Saw some stuff at the local health store that has promise).

[rain-]

There's lots of recipes and lots of makers of that kind of biscuits, they are mostly made for apple snails (like Justwaaaa:s, I think she might have an altered recipe of Barb's Fall Pumpkin Snail Cookies, but I can be wrong), so you can find recipes from here:
Applesnail.net - Snail care (http://www.applesnail.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2)

Here's two online sellers (I don't remember any more now), they both are really great and trustworthy ladies (there's also recipes):
Snips 'n Snails (http://home.mchsi.com/~masts/feed_bag.htm)
Rainbow Snails (http://food.rainbowsnails.com/)

I am sure the Justwaaaa:s biscuits are also great. I also make my own biscuits and they really are popular in my tanks, the fish, snails and shrimps just love them :)

Two recipes of mine with lots of calcium (tofu, calcium rich vegetables) and carotenoids etc. Shrimpy biscuits: Whole shrimps, sweet pepper, tofu, green beans, orange, frozen spinach, carrots, parsley, mutigrain bran, eggs and vitamines. Vegetable biscuits: Green beans, tofu, apple, banana, orange, frozen spinach, stinging nettle, carrot, sweet pepper, parsley, peas, multigrain flakes, multigrain bran, eggs, garlic and vitamines.

[turbomkt]

Rain-,
When you do the eggs, are you doing raw egg with shells, too?

[silane]

rain-,

You can use soya bean directly, as it is the main ingredient in tofu.

[rain-]

turbomkt: I don't add the shell since I want as smooth mixture as possible and I can't grind them to a flour with my equipment. But I have been making a mixture with gypsum (calcium sulphate, same thing I use to raise total hardness (with magnesium sulphate)) and I am going to buy calcium carbonate flour or something like that used for horse and dog food additive.

I am going to make a third recipe with that calcium addition, but these two I am using now are sort of universal, good for all the fish, shrimps and snails :)

fruitpie: True, and it would be way cheaper. But I like the, uhm, thick form of tofu. I use only a couple of cups bran or flour, so the mixture is rather wet, tofu adds firmness :)

[silane]

turbomkt, My 3-in-1 oven lowest temperature is 150C, no luck to go down to 140F. :(

rain-, does tofu in your country uses gypsum as an hardening agent?

[NanoDave]

By the way can we feed tofu to shrimp?

[rain-]

fruitpie: To my understanding this tofu contains only soy beans and water. There's also some other brands and maybe some of them could use that too. But this is 100% without additives, or so it claims.

NanoDave: And about feeding tofu, why not if the shrimps eat it. Mine don't seem to like the pure form, but they will eat the mixture which contains tofu. You could also try to offer soy beans.

[NanoDave]

Thanks Rain- :)