Effect of topping up water

[kross]

what is the effect of topping up water daily and never do water change since setting up a shrimp tank? is it ok? thx.

[silane]

It would have to depend on your raw water, tank condition, bioload and plant.

If your raw water is soft, just topping of water is fine, your tank water won't get harder and harder over time. If your plant is taking up the nitrate, you can just do top up and no water change.

However, if the bioload is high or water is hard, then water change is necessary.

[Bocca]

IMHO,
i think 10% water change is still gd to have for once a month.
:)

[Robert]

Hi,
I do a 30% water change every week to keep the nitrate level low. If you have only slow growing plants like mosses, Anbuias, javafern etc. this is necessary because they cannot use all the nutrients that fast. It could work with a LOT of fast growing plants like Hygrophila corymbosa, H. polysperma, other stem plants or Riccia fluitans if there are only a few fishes and shrimps, so a small bioload but even then I would be careful. Nitrate is poisonous and stresses/kills shrimps and fishes, so I recommend to keep its level as low as possible.

regards

Robert

[kross]

Hi,
I do a 30% water change every week to keep the nitrate level low. If you have only slow growing plants like mosses, Anbuias, javafern etc. this is necessary because they cannot use all the nutrients that fast. It could work with a LOT of fast growing plants like Hygrophila corymbosa, H. polysperma, other stem plants or Riccia fluitans if there are only a few fishes and shrimps, so a small bioload but even then I would be careful. Nitrate is poisonous and stresses/kills shrimps and fishes, so I recommend to keep its level as low as possible.

regards

Robert

i'm always worried about changing water for my shrimp tanks.... the last time i did a 20% change, 30% of my bee died the following day... :(

[silane]

Kross,

How was the water prepared the last time?

[simcb]

Aged water with the right Ph and Kh is important.... Might be Ph shock or cholrmine or temperature difference during water change..... killing your bees. They are very most senstive shrimps so far.... I knew of any....

Check your top up water Ph/kh and your tank water Kh and Ph....maybe tell us the difference.

[kross]

Kross,

How was the water prepared the last time?

i just left it overnight with anti-chlorine/chloramide added.... :confused:
the ph is around 7 and kh unknown as i dun measure it. :p i should probably start measuring kh, nitrate, nitrite and ammonia.

[silane]

i just left it overnight with anti-chlorine/chloramide added.... :confused:
the ph is around 7 and kh unknown as i dun measure it. :p i should probably start measuring kh, nitrate, nitrite and ammonia.


hmm.... the way you prepared the water is good enough, unless that bee shrimps are already sick or there is a large PH/Temperature between the new water and tank water.

[simcb]

hmm.... the way you prepared the water is good enough, unless that bee shrimps are already sick or there is a large PH/Temperature between the new water and tank water.

Add sufficient Benficial Bactiera to help control ammonia when there is a lack of plants in the tank. BTW I dose those use those power bacteria for ponds for my shrimp tanks. 1g for 2000 liter. i dose half a gram to my 2ft tank every water change. The water is crystal clear.

Common death causes to shrimps:

IMO, Bees are very fraglie...over dosing of water conditioner solution might cause their death too (did u underdose?)..... next time tend to under dose the recommend dosage by a bit i guess it applies to all shrimps.

Death from overdosing take a while to see the effect as it accumulates in the tank.

[dom]

Hi,

I have a nano tank with mosses. 8inchx8inchx8inch. A month old. I was used to change 5-10% water daily. (took out the protein which floating on surface of water.) But after there are baby shrimps swimming around. I just top up the water daily. Is that fine? And I am using the cold water from fridge to top up.... Doing this since 3 weeks ago. :D So far none of them die. :surprised :surprised (touch wood!!!)

[kross]

:D thx guys...for all the tips...

[laykiat]

Hi,

I have a nano tank with mosses. 8inchx8inchx8inch. A month old. I was used to change 5-10% water daily. (took out the protein which floating on surface of water.) But after there are baby shrimps swimming around. I just top up the water daily. Is that fine? And I am using the cold water from fridge to top up.... Doing this since 3 weeks ago. :D So far none of them die. :surprised :surprised (touch wood!!!)

did wc of 5-10% daily with peat in my nano tank as well. so far three red nose and one cherry make it. the rest bees and tigers all die slowly day by day. about 30 shrimps had died. tank full of moss including the wall. my only guess is the daily change kills them. now im so afraid of adding more shrimps.

[simcb]

did wc of 5-10% daily with peat in my nano tank as well. so far three red nose and one cherry make it. the rest bees and tigers all die slowly day by day. about 30 shrimps had died. tank full of moss including the wall. my only guess is the daily change kills them. now im so afraid of adding more shrimps.

laykiat did u cycle your tank? Why must you daily change 5-10%? Topping up water is ok remember to add some beneficial bacteria weekily. That is to slowly mature the tank.

I'm unsure about nano tanks but IMO water change amount must be less than 10% and carry out water change only once a week or every two weeks.

I think daily changes with peat is like adding no3 + small amount of ammonia to the tank daily also stress the shrimps. So far i have no luck in nano tanks keeping sensitive shrimps so far only cherries but they do not look as healthy as when they are in my planted.

Although cherries are hardy if you observe them not eating much, means they dont really like the water.

[laykiat]

now i switch to 5% change every two days. will wait one more week before adding anymore shrimps. selling bees and tigers in bags. are those reliable? it seems, impov, bees and tigers very sensitive to water compared to the others.

[star88]

now i switch to 5% change every two days. will wait one more week before adding anymore shrimps. selling bees and tigers in bags. are those reliable? it seems, impov, bees and tigers very sensitive to water compared to the others.

Sometime back got 20 pieces of bees but unfortunately all died within a fortnight :( ..........Guess their bees are rather sensitive because my other cherries and CRS are doing fine.

Isit bees require cooler temperature?

[Shrimp101]

Aged water with the right Ph and Kh is important.... Might be Ph shock or cholrmine or temperature difference during water change..... killing your bees. They are very most senstive shrimps so far.... I knew of any....

Check your top up water Ph/kh and your tank water Kh and Ph....maybe tell us the difference.

Does 3 Kh count? Ph : 7.25. Kh: 3

Do i put peat in my filter?

[bikersoy]

The water filling must have values ​​similar to the tank.
Not good changes in ph, gh and kh.
I To prevent this, always do water changes drip.
25 liters can last a few hours to a full day
I use an overflow and just add water.

[leefhker]

I have an about 4L super nano tank..How I go about adding water is that i add water every few hrs due to evaporation(running on fan) and the hardness and ph of the water i use to add into the tank is the same of that in the tank..As my tank is very small..it really takes alot of caution in preparing the water.A slight change in the parameters in the water could probably stress crs very much. pertaining to water changes,i change about 30-40% once per week.

and yea my nitrates level is very high ard 25ppm..trying to lower it by adding plants but to no avail..However my shrimps are not showing any signs of stress and is feeding well..

[Shrimp101]

I have an about 4L super nano tank..How I go about adding water is that i add water every few hrs due to evaporation(running on fan) and the hardness and ph of the water i use to add into the tank is the same of that in the tank..As my tank is very small..it really takes alot of caution in preparing the water.A slight change in the parameters in the water could probably stress crs very much. pertaining to water changes,i change about 30-40% once per week.

and yea my nitrates level is very high ard 25ppm..trying to lower it by adding plants but to no avail..However my shrimps are not showing any signs of stress and is feeding well..

That wierd i have a very small tank too and my nitrates are 0.1ppm