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    Smile about soil :benibach or borneowild? ugf?

    hi
    it makes a Long Time since my last post.
    i have now a little room for my shrimps .
    now im using 100liters tanks .
    im planning to filla new one very soon,i often use ada amazonia but now i want to try a new soil.
    beni bachi or borneowild shrimpsoil.

    wich one you prefer?
    on both can i add a little ugf ?

    its a tank for crs/cbs
    96liters
    canister filter ecco pro300 or eheim 2071.

    thx
    i Will try to show you my shrimproom (8tanks)soon

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    Hi psychonemo,

    I will not recommend you installing a UGF. Based on a few studies, it will introduce more waste into the water than helping it.

    For the canister filter, I favour 2071 (aka Pro3 250) more than ecco due to it is a proven product for years. Ecco is good for energy saving but I doubt you will save much from it. By the way, what is the dimension of your 96L tank? Pro3 series are using 16/22 mm hose and Ecco Pro 300 is using 12/16mm hose. If you 96L is higher enough, I will suggest you got for the Pro3 350, which has 1L capacity more than Pro3 250 and a more powerful pump. With a more powerful pump, you can connect two outlet to a T-joint. This will ensure high turn over of water but reduce the water speed.

    There is another candidate you can consider, which used to be my favour and was running on all my tanks. It is the Pro3e 350. The major advantage of the Pro3e in freshwater tank is it self-adjust and maintain consistent water speed.

    Since you are going to use Eheim canister filter, you should consider getting the Eheim pre-filter too: https://www.eheim.com/en_GB/products...tion_prefilter
    This will prevent the shrimp from being suck into the filter and add the same time keep your filter cleaner. You just need to clean this pre-filter weekly and the canister filter maybe monthly.

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    thx for your repply.

    for the ugf i thought it was good , because i used to use one before.
    and i see tanks with it.

    for the canister , i have 2 ecco pro 130 and 300.
    your right the tank is quite high( about 1m30or more for the top of the tank)

    There is also the expérience 250 or 350 .
    its cheaper than pro3 , and maybe a bite better than ecco pro


    the prefilter looks good i Will try to find some.
    im using squares of blue moss .

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    I used Experience 350 before, it used to be called "Professional". It is a good filter too. However, when compared to Pro3 350, it short of two things:
    1. It does not have the priming pump press
    2. 1L of filter media lesser (1 tray equal 1L of filter media)

    One thing I hate about the Pro3/Pro3e is that it comes with filter media and the price got jack up. If you want to use your own type of filter media, it will not be worth.

    Both Experience and Pro3/Pro3e are very reliable. I used them for years and they are still running like clockwork. For Ecco, although I have no experience, I seems to see many people trying to sell it after using awhile. I'm not sure why....

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    what about jbl e901/701...not very expensive.
    but the filter media are just blue moss (just one level of ceramic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychonemo View Post
    what about jbl e901/701...not very expensive.
    but the filter media are just blue moss (just one level of ceramic)
    I'm have not use JBL technics before, however based on the instruction manual I got from their website, e901 is quite similar to Eheim eXperience and the specification is between 250 and 350.

    Another brand you can consider is Sicce. After they teamed up with Tunze to create pump technology against Eheim, their pump technology is already on-par with Eheim. This knowledge, I believe they also applied to their new Whale series of canister filter. http://www.sicce.com/prodottiDettagl.../idprodotto=82

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    what about the filter média of the jbl?
    is it a problem not to have a lot of ceramic media?

    your filter look beautifull but im not sure to find them here.

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    All canister filter, you need both mechanical and biological filter, unless you have a pre-filter. Sponge filter media does grow bacteria effectively. I'm using the JBL Uniblock in my sump tank filtration compartment in between bags of bio rings/ball. The only thing I worry about the JBL is that it does not have poly wool, which you need it to trap all the fine particle and oil.

    Sicce is from Italy, I think it should be easily obtainable in France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychonemo View Post
    what about the filter média of the jbl?
    is it a problem not to have a lot of ceramic media?

    your filter look beautifull but im not sure to find them here.
    It´s no need to use the original filter media.
    I´m satisfied with JBL filters and use Eheim filter media as well (Substrate pro).

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    danke.

    i was planning to do that.
    but at the end you arrive at the price (about) of an eheim filter pro 3.
    because good filter média are quite expensive especialy with 4liters x3 of the filter.

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