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jonathandowers
11th Apr 2011, 01:40 PM
Java moss is suppose to be easy to grow, but I'm not having much luck :embarasse. Not looking for CO2 injection.

Ph is about 8.4 and temperature is 72 degrees. Lighting is a 13 watt 5500K CFL bulb less than 8 inches away (it's a very small bowl). I only use RO bottled water.

What nutrients/fertilizers do I need?

Below is a picture of my new Marimo (left) vs the 3 week old dying Java moss (right):

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Fento
11th Apr 2011, 05:14 PM
You don't need anything special. In a couple weeks since starting, it should start growing... I don't know what happens
Appart from that, I think pH is quite high at least for shrimps.

Sea-Agg09
12th Apr 2011, 12:52 AM
Use some normal tap water to put some trace elements in the water, and increase the hardness of the water. Obviously you don't want to change out the whole thing, but maybe once a month add some normal dechlorinated tap water to boost things. I do this in my 75 planted tank, and the results are nice. For your small tank, which I'm thinking is around 1 gallon, I would say something like a standard drinking cup would be enough.

jonathandowers
12th Apr 2011, 01:53 AM
Use some normal tap water to put some trace elements in the water, and increase the hardness of the water. Obviously you don't want to change out the whole thing, but maybe once a month add some normal dechlorinated tap water to boost things. I do this in my 75 planted tank, and the results are nice. For your small tank, which I'm thinking is around 1 gallon, I would say something like a standard drinking cup would be enough.

Hardness and Ph are the same thing right?

Mark
12th Apr 2011, 03:07 AM
I am By no means an expert when it comes to shrimp but you need to get that pH down gradually ,its way to high .
Swap over some of that RO water for dechlorinated tape water it will do you Java moss the world of good .
What i always do with Java moss is start it of by growing it in lower light ,this way you will give it a chance to establish itself and avoid algae issues .to do this just raise the light fixture a few inches .

Anubia
12th Apr 2011, 03:28 AM
I would also trim the java moss back quite hard to stimulate new growth........

jonathandowers
15th Apr 2011, 06:30 PM
I would also trim the java moss back quite hard to stimulate new growth........

Does trimming stimulate new growth?

So turns out I was low on nutrients. Staghorn and GSA started forming :(

Anubia
16th Apr 2011, 01:27 AM
Think of moss like any other plat species. It you cut back a plant new leafs and growth will emerge....Moss is similar so trim it hard back and watch it spread and bulk out ...I would even attach the moss to some hardscape( rocks/bogwood as it grows better attached to something..

Look at your photo-period(lighting) and maybe cut back on the hours per day figure. Also look into dosing some shrimp freindly ferts....

jonathandowers
16th Apr 2011, 02:37 AM
Think of moss like any other plat species. It you cut back a plant new leafs and growth will emerge....Moss is similar so trim it hard back and watch it spread and bulk out ...I would even attach the moss to some hardscape( rocks/bogwood as it grows better attached to something..

Look at your photo-period(lighting) and maybe cut back on the hours per day figure. Also look into dosing some shrimp freindly ferts....

After I dosed Plantex CSM+B, I noticed new Java spuds the next day. Now picking up some Fleet Enema for phosphates.

Any tips on trimming (how do you do it)? I haven't trimmed/pruned plants before.

Anubia
16th Apr 2011, 02:47 PM
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Any tips on trimming (how do you do it)? I haven't trimmed/pruned plants before.[/QUOTE]

With Moss it's just a case of trimming back flush to the hardscape and picking up the cuttings with a pair of forceps. I tend to turn of my filter / flow, use a pair of scissors, cut back to desired shape or structure of hardscape and then pick cut pieces out of the tank. Turn filter / flow back on and ensure that any additional cut pieces are collected.

With stem plants and rhizome rooted species there are some good video clips / information on the web on how and where to cut back certain species. Tropica a plant specialist company is avery good source of information.

coldmantis
15th May 2011, 01:43 PM
java moss takes forever to grow just be patience and you'll end up with more then you need in a couple of months.

seph
28th Jul 2011, 01:06 PM
how's yourjava moss now? :)

Shrimp101
15th Aug 2011, 09:44 AM
Update please!

Soothing Shrimp
16th Sep 2011, 02:11 AM
Dead? Alive? Taking over your house?