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morgana
15th Nov 2009, 06:45 PM
Hello friends,:)

in an other thread I notify you, tell more about my tigers.
Well, I have to start from the very first then.-:rolleyes:

I fall in love with shrimps in 2008 and since I keep some crazy tigers.
I doing from scratch without any knowledge about aquaristic and ive done many faults but always it is going on step by step.


In march or april happened that I got a few interesting, multicouloured tiger-shrimps from a female breeder in germany, wich want to stay unknown. She got some black tigers from Kai Quante/ Germany and kept them together with some deep blue tigers ( from Roland/ Germany) above 2 years without any selection. Beside selection by several crayfish, I suppose :cool:.

At first I had set 2 little tanks, about 20 liter each, for the tigers. That must be enough for shrimp keeping, I thought.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/regal_mora.jpg

But after a short while, 2 tanks more arrived because I liked to separate some colours and secure the “line” ( please help, how ist the English word for meaning german “Stamm”?)
Ok, but its certain that I never want more than 4 tanks in my livingroom!:shocked:

Here are a few of the beautiest to me, I start with breeding.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/PIC04139.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/PIC04140.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/IMG_0484.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/IMG_0454.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/white_black_02.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/IMG_0092.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/IMG_0005.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/bl3IMG_1277.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/web_tiger/bl2IMG_1277.jpg





Please excuse me for several low quality pics. My hobby is keeping shrimps not photograph ;).
More about the crazy tigers and arriving F1, surprisings, I’ll add soon, if you interested in and if my poor english isn’t so unusal for you :embarasse.
Any comments from tiger lovers and other of course are welcome until then.

Best regards
monika

dxiong5
15th Nov 2009, 11:29 PM
monika - Nice Tigers! Tiger Shrimp (even regular Tigers) are hard to come by in the states; I think I see more sales for OE Blue Tigers than other types of Tigers. In my own Tiger collection, I have Super Tigers, OE Blue Tigers, and Black Tigers. Keep us updated.

jojoecute
16th Nov 2009, 09:31 AM
Wooo nice tank and Tiger shrimps you have, you are really Tiger shrimps crazy.

gr81
16th Nov 2009, 02:45 PM
are they all tigers? some looks like bee/tiger hybrids. :?

morgana
16th Nov 2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks for reply.
Yes, it seems for me, too, that a few of them mixed up with a other couloured phenotyp.
There are two or three looks more than tiger/bee than others.
But at all it doesn´t matter or change anything. At all they are Caridina cf. cantonensis and no hybrids beetwen two shrimp-species( as like shrimps called Red Bee ; in Germany a well known importer give info that higher grade crs are hybrids between Caridina cf. cantonensis and Caridina breviata, but also is an other issue^when we have to say 'hybrid>... ).

All of a few hundred offspring of these tigers until now ( F3) looked like different coulered tigers. Not one shrimp look more a bee like.
Let me say it again, it is not important for me and the beauty of shrimps, if there two phenotyps were mixed before i owened ;).

morgana
18th Nov 2009, 10:03 PM
Ok, lets going on with F1.
The first shrimplets arrived after a few month.
But I had hard troubles with water conditions and so lost more than a half of parent stock and most of shrimplets.
So I got only a few shrimplets.
Most of them look like “nominat”, blue OE and light blue darkeyed.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/IMG_1277.JPG

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/blue_darkeye2.jpg


a smal number were “Orange OE Tiger”

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/wIMG_1312.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/OOEIMG_2.jpg


3 or 4 were “Black Tiger OE". But the blue colour of them were
peculiar to me. They were not black, they are blue and dark blue seems black if they older.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/blue_black_01.jpg


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/wIMG_1363.jpg


may same number were Black Tiger with whitness. I was really wondrous about, at first.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/wIMG_0711.jpg


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/IMG_0864.jpg


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/IMG_0874.jpg


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f1/double.jpg



Do you know why “normal” Black Tiger you know (most female and more by lower grades because the black covers white) have whitness, too?
Please guess.

morgana
24th Nov 2009, 09:14 PM
Before f2 is arrived I set up 4 bigger sized tanks..... breeding in small tanks was to hard I learned.

Below are the juvenile f2.
I made a collage for better overview.
The offspring rate for shrimps you can see is about 30%.
Others looks like other tiger.

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/crazytiger_f2.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/IMG_1546.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/IMG_2020.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/IMG_2006.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/IMG_1993.jpg



Some more special phenotyps


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/IMG_1155.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/juvenile1b.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/f2/rrr1.jpg

Phanizzzle
26th Nov 2009, 04:21 AM
Beautiful BT! I was wondering if you have all of your tiger shrimps together because I noticed the picture of your BT with the orange tiger. I'm just asking because I plan on buying BTs and was unsure if the blondes or non blues would mess with the "blue genes" of the tiger shrimp. Thank you very much!

morgana
26th Nov 2009, 05:51 PM
Hello Phanizzle,

the shown tigers above are from the same strain.
Orange ones bears genes for black and blue phen also, that’s why I kept them together first.
But generally I can’ t recommend housing normal tiger or other coulered tigers from different sources, together with special breed unless backcrossing is desired.

gr81
26th Nov 2009, 06:35 PM
black OE are cooliest :D

imke_j
26th Nov 2009, 11:11 PM
black OE are cooliest :D
I like blue tiger without stripes the most!

Niel
27th Nov 2009, 06:03 AM
Hi,
what colour have this Tiger?
Regards
Niel

morgana
27th Nov 2009, 06:47 AM
I hope you don´t worry about the shrimps on the pics taken with flash shines blue?
Or was it only a rhetorical question?:cheesy:
Please tell!

imke_j
27th Nov 2009, 07:52 PM
what colour have this Tiger?
They are blue - nice shrimps btw.

whatever
5th Feb 2010, 12:23 PM
Very nice shrimps, you've got there....
I'm interesting about tiger shrimps as well. but I didn't study them as much as i should. So i haven't own one myself. Currently I'm having 2 tanks for CRS shrimps. And going to have my 3rd CRS shrimp tank now. ^_^

morgana
5th Feb 2010, 08:35 PM
change urThank you, i love study the tiger shrimps, because they are fill up with amazing surprisings and they are more robust than CRS in my water.:)
I heard, that tiger-shrimps unfortunatley more rare in Asia.
But I hope this fact will change very soon :yes:.


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_2769.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_2853.jpg


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_2936.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_2953.jpg

http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_3285.jpg

Frank
6th Feb 2010, 12:52 AM
Very nice shrimps you have. :thumbsup:

cristal red 77
6th Feb 2010, 01:58 AM
I am impressed beauty of your shrimps !!!

Fatcows
6th Feb 2010, 05:52 AM
I love the blue ones!

morgana
6th Feb 2010, 07:44 AM
Thank you for showing!

Because just must read in an other thread about the horrible name for a “new” tiger variety ( looking similar like shown shrimps here) , I hurry up to call the blackblue OE of my crazy tigers
"Tiger ‘Black Lagoon’ "from this day forward.:gossip:
;)

morgana
6th Feb 2010, 08:22 AM
Tiger "Black Lagoon"


http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_2477.jpg

tinkertoyclub
6th Feb 2010, 09:44 AM
very nice indeed. currently I'm keeping any kind of CRS.I ever got some blue tigers from silane but they all dead. please tell me the best soil we can use for keeping tigers. as told they need PH above 7,5 and what's GH level suited the best? thanks

Fatcows
6th Feb 2010, 12:57 PM
That first picture under (2ed Page)

"change urThank you, i love study the tiger shrimps, because they are fill up with amazing surprisings and they are more robust than CRS in my water.
I heard, that tiger-shrimps unfortunatley more rare in Asia.
But I hope this fact will change very soon ."

what type of shrimp is that and can you tell me your water parameters for breeding? i think i have those too in my 36 gal tank i got them from a breeder that called them "super wild tiger shrimp bred blue".

minicooper
6th Feb 2010, 01:40 PM
Do you know why “normal” Black Tiger you know (most female and more by lower grades because the black covers white) have whitness, too?
Please guess.[/QUOTE]

My Answer is....
Because of a special glands in female shrimp? Will show the whiteness during the "RIGHT TIME" for mating.

imke_j
6th Feb 2010, 02:24 PM
Because just must read in an other thread about the horrible name for a “new” tiger variety ( looking similar like shown shrimps here) , I hurry up to call the blackblue OE of my crazy tigers "Tiger ‘Black Lagoon’ "from this day forward.

I really like this name more than the other which is hard to spell for non-Germans. Good job done; keep on!
:nice:

morgana
6th Feb 2010, 06:28 PM
@ tinkertoyclub
There is no best soil or the best PH or GH level for keeping tiger shrimps.
Tiger shrimps are very tolerant about different water parameters.
I think you must find out your own way.
You can try PH between 6,8 and 8,0 and GH till 20.
Higher Grades like some blackt tiger varieties prefer a lower KH around 3 and other parameters like Bee-shrimps approximately.


@Fatcows
That is a heterozygous tiger shrimp, it’s Grandmum of the shrimp below the pic.
I don’t have a special name for it.


@minicooper
Ist a very interesting thouhgt, thank you!
Even if the female show always this coloration but more if they become older.


BTW: Now I know the name of the black ones with white emblems on tail and so on, too.
You should´nt have any doubts (;)) about the variety because there are similar looking shrimps like "KK".

The name of variety showed in this thread is:

Tiger “Black Soul”
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_3371.jpg
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10/IMG_3354.jpg


@Imke
Thank you, I will do.

aelysa
7th Feb 2010, 01:28 PM
These are gorgeous! More pictures!

morgana
7th Feb 2010, 08:48 PM
Ok, here are some pictures from today ;-) , but sorry i unfortunately have a simple automatic cam.
The f3-offspring of the strain now is about 90% true breed of black or blackblue phenotype.


black soul
male shrimp
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3437.jpg

next generation 5mm and 8mm
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3401.jpg
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3453.jpg


black lagoon
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3416.jpg

females
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3425.jpg
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3420.jpg


and a multi color one
http://www.doxon.de/biolux/feb_10b/IMG_3433.jpg

Felf808
8th Feb 2010, 02:38 PM
Man those are some amazing shrimp...

rdurham02
3rd Mar 2010, 01:52 AM
Very nice crustaceans! Me likey :)

Luis Alves
2nd Jul 2010, 01:39 AM
nice collection :cool:

Kifeter
25th Nov 2010, 10:17 AM
Wow! Awesome tiger shrimp collection! How did you get that one with black and yellow? I saw that you had a picture with a bunch of dark blue tigers with no strips, kinda like the black tiger just blue. Do they breed true?

kenng
5th Jul 2011, 05:54 PM
Thank you for sharing, this is so helpful.

morgana
5th Jul 2011, 06:24 PM
Wow! Awesome tiger shrimp collection! How did you get that one with black and yellow?

Sorry, wich one please?


I saw that you had a picture with a bunch of dark blue tigers with no strips, kinda like the black tiger just blue. Do they breed true?


What should breed true, please? The bluish or that they have no stripes or the OE ? Or all together?